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09-28-2006, 05:01 AM
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Tables vs. Tableless
I was just thinking, why code tableless when you can use tables without the hassle of cross browser problems?
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09-28-2006, 05:18 AM
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I have read that tables load alot slower, especially when you have used a bunch of them.
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09-28-2006, 05:44 AM
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Fad / Bandwagon.... (oh no, I'm going to get half the board telling me why my opinion is wrong because it clashes with theirs!)
If you're local, most places don't care, they just want a website that works. Online, tabless is just a way to set appart your services from the other millions of designers in my opinion...
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09-28-2006, 06:17 AM
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The correct use of tables is for tabular data, not for presentation. That's why.
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09-28-2006, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Julian
The correct use of tables is for tabular data, not for presentation. That's why.
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Precisely what I was going to say.
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09-28-2006, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Julian
The correct use of tables is for tabular data, not for presentation. That's why.
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Very good way of putting it.
There are still alot of people that are against using tableless code in sites.
http://www.ironspider.ca/webdesign102/tablesvscss.htm
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09-28-2006, 02:15 PM
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I'm using tableless designs because I see it as the way things will be going in the future, with content and styling being completely seperated. I know it's a pain in the ass for some. But if we don't show that this is what we think is the future then there is no reason for the browser developers to implement support for web standards. Plus I'm at a point where I think the tableless coding is giving less problems than using tables
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09-28-2006, 02:25 PM
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Depends on what the project is. As a developer, tableless save you and anyone else who follows you a lot of time down the road. For the following reasons:
* Once you learn tableless design, it's much easier and much faster to develop (this alone should be enough to convince anyone who does a lot of coding)
* Since you seperate content from layout, you can change the way a page looks at any time by modifying the style. You don't even have to open up the content files, so you have no chance of screwing them up
* Anyone familiar with CSS based layouts can come in behind you and easily see how things work and make changes. Since div tags are labled (or should be) contextually, you know exactly what content is layed out where just by looking at the ID (i.e. <div id="header"> will obviously contain the header)
* It's read easier by parsers such as search engines
* It's more compatible with secondary devices such as PDA's, cell phones, etc. In fact you can use seperate style sheets on the same page to dictate how each device should see the page
It's about versatility, speed and control over a web page. If you're doing a one time project that you will never touch again and they will never need updated, AND it's faster for you to code tables, then it might benefit you time wise to code it tables. But if you code a lot of pages, CSS saves you a great deal of time once you've learned it.
For me it has nothing to do with a bandwagon, it's about making my life easier.
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09-28-2006, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jjmac
* It's read easier by parsers such as search engines
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I don't think this matters much, there are alot of sites using tables that rank REALLY high in search engines.. tables don't matter when it comes to search engine rankings.. yes, it's easier for them to read without them, but it doesn't matter.
Other than that, I agree with most of you.. I kinda posted this because I forgot about what I have read about tables vs. tableless. I'm actually learning tables in Web Design class and it is rather boring.
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09-28-2006, 03:27 PM
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Well yes it matters, but not as much as a $1 million advertising budget
If you have two sites with the exact same ranking and one is table coded and the other tableless, the tableless will have a slight advantage, the search engine will be able to return more relavant content in the preview search results. It's certainly not a reason in and of itself to switch.
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