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How important is validation to you?

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08-25-2009, 04:42 AM
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I've recently been thinking about how important it is that your site has perfectly valid (X)HTML and CSS. I had noticed that some browser-specific CSS3 implementations had caused some invalid code. I was just wondering what everyone else thought.

I usually try to make sure my sites use valid XHTML, mostly because of some SEO benefits, and I like seeing that green bar , but I usually follow it as a guideline, and not as an important rule.

I usually care a bit less about CSS validation. Like I said, there are some CSS3 things that cause some validation errors, but I think that as long as the site is accessible, looks nice, and degrades nicely in older browsers, it's okay.

What do you think?

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08-25-2009, 05:13 AM
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Definitly stick to XHTML validation, and I would say do CSS Validation *comment out the cSS3 stuff temporarily* to make sure you didn't make any typographical errors or such. Other then that if you wanna use CSS3 that degrades nicely in older browsers go for it.

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its always best to make things comply with standards, that way you look professional and not like a learner!

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I do agree that valid (X)HTML does help to make you look more professional.

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Yes, Valid (X)HTML, but your css is usually less checked by most, as well as if they know anything about CSS they should understand some things are not valid but work fine and degrade nicely (-moz-border-radius) for example.

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some browser-specific CSS3 implementations had caused some invalid cod
Yes, but who cares. There is a difference between someone who can't code valid, and someone who is using a bit of CSS so those who use real browsers can get a slightly better experience.

It is totally different to say valid HTML - that, you have no excuse to get wrong (except when clients edit it haha). If the CSS invalidation is ONLY because of CSS3, or.... hmm, say IEpngfix with behavior, or expressions to fix IE min/max width - then that's fine. Is it perfect? No. But do we live in a perfect world? Not til IE goes die in a hole

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I just noticed that the description for this forum is "Learn to write and discuss W3C Compliant code." I guess this means that it's very important!

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I prefer to have it valid, but it isn't a big deal to me to be honest, as long as the site looks and functio0ns how it should, it's fine.

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I wrote a blog post yesterday about this subject. You can read it here.

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Validation is nice thing to do, it says something about creator of code but it`s not like "must be thing". It helps with keeping code clear and without stupid mistakes that will hide later and drive you crazy.

Only things i don't like when validation are scripts, fo example i have script from site that keep stats about visitors etc. and their code is a bit crapy for validator .

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