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What language is the best to learn?

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You need to know XHTML

The only way to go. More strict, more to the point, more powerful. And it fits in with the rendered code from the Server when you pump in ASP.NET as we all should be doing.

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Of all web languages, PHP is the worst to learn and it definitely pays less than the rest. PHP isn't a very secure language as a whole and I am very disturbed at any site that uses it.

This site for example is PHP which means the owner of this site didn't do anything to make it. They purchased or downloaded this php script and added a theme and modifications. PHP is used for people with a lack of creativity.
ive just noticed this comment and what a complete load of tripe!!

php is only secure as the coder that coded it!

this is a prebuilt script yes. but this forum software does not take 6 months to develop! its been in development for ages!!! lots of people use prebuilt forums and scripts there is nothing wrong with that. there are lots of prebuilt cgi/asp scripts out there as well!

a script is as secure as the person that coded it. php itself is not unsecure with out some way of exploiting the security in the code then there is no way to hack it. and the security is built buy the person that coded it! so if a novice coder doesnt install any messures against security in there code then there open to attacks but if someone installs some security mesures such as urlencode() and disabled register globals then they are far more secure.

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Originally Posted by Adam
ive just noticed this comment and what a complete load of tripe!!

php is only secure as the coder that coded it!
ASPX done by a five year old with no security knowledge is more secure than most well trained PHP Coders' Code then Frameworked Coding is a whole lot easier in simple hands and more powerful in experienced hands.

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this is a prebuilt script yes. but this forum software does not take 6 months to develop! its been in development for ages!!! lots of people use prebuilt forums and scripts there is nothing wrong with that. there are lots of prebuilt cgi/asp scripts out there as well!
On Hotscripts; there are 700 ASPX Scripts. 11,000 PHP Scripts It doesn't make it easier though, it just means more people use it. Most Forum software will take about 6 months to complete to Release; after that it matures and it has to be said vBulletin has been maturing very well. There are a whole lot more superior ASPX Forums out there though ASPX Forums that can take advantage of Mobile Phone and PDA possibilities not in place with PHP.

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a script is as secure as the person that coded it. php itself is not unsecure with out some way of exploiting the security in the code then there is no way to hack it. and the security is built buy the person that coded it! so if a novice coder doesnt install any messures against security in there code then there open to attacks but if someone installs some security mesures such as urlencode() and disabled register globals then they are far more secure.
Again - ASPX is secure from the beginning. You can, if you want, drop a Login Box, a Regisration Wizard and a Page and it will be more secure than more PHP Scripts.

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