True, however some methods don't exactly bring in the "members" I would like tf to consist of and they often attract members who simply don't post....creating a huge community that's very inactive. Check out www.daniweb.com, they have 30,000 members, yet 9,000 have posted! Yaxay have nearly 10,000 members and only half have posted! I'm trying to specifcally target my advertising to those interested in the community....