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08-26-2010, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan View Post
You seem to be under the impression you need a maoosively good designer to bring top-notch work. It doesn't work like that. The way a great design is constructed is through other means.. extensive research, critique, ideologies etc. Most of us are fully capable.:
Your idea is flawed. Research, critique etc can get you to a certain level but a persons natural ability, creativeness, type and colour understanding and a whole host of other factors is what sets the barrier between a good designer and an excellent designer.

Originally Posted by Dan View Post
Just take a look at http://hostingdiscussion.com, this is no dig at Artashes nor http://emblematiq.com. How many of you would honestly say your interest would not dwindle should TF get similar visuals?
I wouldn't have a problem with a skin like that, I wouldn't call it exceptional, I'm pretty sure Artashes wouldn't either, however looking at Emblematiq's recent work I'm fairly sure he could create something to meet peoples expectations.

Originally Posted by Dan View Post
http://4design.tv, good designer(s) and proven, yet shoved crap out the door. I hope you're getting the jist of this.
I'm not implying from any of my comments that the people suggested are bad designers, many are good but in the end it comes down to the fact that there are better designers available. If Artashes is willing to spend the money on one of these surely people should be happy considering that they'll benefit from a better product in the end?

Originally Posted by Apple View Post
cpr, being a moderator I wouldn't think you'd be the one to tell the community that their skills aren't worthy of designing the new TF skin. That's very offending in my opinion, and I as a designer do take offense to that.
I'll just end up repeating what I've already stated so I'll keep it short - I'm not saying the people here aren't worthy, it's the simple fact that in my opinion better designers are available. By the way I'm a designer myself.

Originally Posted by Apple View Post
Several designers here are highly capable of producing the same quality of work as emblematique or any of the other's that Art listed. In the end, it all comes down to the wireframe and briefing provided by the client, with time and money for motivation.
No there aren't. For example, checkout www.31three.com (one of the people I suggested), if you still honestly think any of the people listed here can match that level you seriously need to wake up and be realistic.

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