Firstly, my use of the word "bitching" might have come across as too harsh. I just meant to air my frustration that even when someone aims to post a good example of the type of markup being discussed here -- it gets picked to pieces.

I'd just like to see some well done examples of everything you guys are talking about here. It is all well and good preaching about it, but lets see some evidence. You folks have posted some links, which go part of the way. But pushing the point about javascript; given that you're heavily interested in XHTML, CSS, semantic markup and so on... what are your thoughts on accessibility. Maybe it is time to start another thread on this new topic? The use of JavaScript (in various ways) can figure heavily in any discussion of accessibility. It may be included in valid XHTML documents, and be well marked up... but is it really accessible. Why use JS and not another means of doing something. Why use JS at all?!

Discuss.