Originally Posted by Julian I don't understand that comment? Do you have trouble optimizing your code to validate? Or do you have trouble finding the time to do it? Or do you think that optimizing code to validate ruins your visual appearances? Or do I have this all wrong?

heh, no that's not what i meant. i started cracking away w/ xhtml/css and tabless coding in probably around spring 2003. i'm confortable in the realm of tableless/optimized coding.

people who have no idea about really optimizing/coding see those sites w/ the xhtml links and if i ever talk with them, sometimes i get asked things like "how come there's no link on your website? are not any good at it?" and i just go blank.

it's annoying sometimes because really optimized coding is underrated in what it can do, but having a validation link -- which says nothing about the code's performance -- is so overvalued.