well thanks for clarify ing that you do not want me around, that i do not belong here and that my web sites are ugly. well....that' syour prerogative and i respect them even if they are insulting to me . but the way i see it is:you are embarrassing yourself.

No one said we don't want you around, we'd love to chat to people from every aspect of design, be it art or digital.

because i have the experience and the time under my belt. and i sold a lot of artwork and website

You seem to be craving respect.

Overall, I think it's you that needs to catch up with the times, as someone said, clients don't pay you to create what you love, they pay you to give them a product that their target audience will like. Which is today's web trends.