Originally Posted by feros As far as the "accessibility" issue - valid coding (with or without tables) is all you need to have an accessible site. Even invalid coding is usually accessible. People just like to be nit picky.

I totally disagree with this. CSS does not an accessible site make!

Validating is only one of many best practices. I can code a page that is in accessibility terms "horrendous", yet still validates. To make such a sweeping statement about accessibility is somewhat naive.

Think how a speech synthesizer might render a table design. Very confusing for the blind. What about defining a text and background color almost identica; valid but not accessible.

Have a read at:
http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/
And hopefully you will see that accessibility if far more complicated that mere validation.

Maybe even try out a text reader or other disability aid and you will see where I am coming from.