are hacks essential now? with conditional statments I thought you could work around that. I have used plenty of hacks before to force IE 5, 5.5, 6, etc to work but I have moved over to conditional statments now. Which creates an interesting problem, having 5 style sheets for 4 versions of IE and 1 for FF. Then I have a mobile and print style sheet...maybe I should make a Opera one as well...Damn, I think im getting out of control.